Comments on: Black History Month ‘09 #05: Make the Cipher Complete http://www.4thletter.net/2009/02/black-history-month-09-05-make-the-cipher-complete/ we like talking about comics, and hopefully you like reading us talking about comics. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:27:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources - Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment » 6’s February Index http://www.4thletter.net/2009/02/black-history-month-09-05-make-the-cipher-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-22342 Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources - Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment » 6’s February Index Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:59:55 +0000 http://www.4thletter.net/?p=2406#comment-22342 [...] of Kitty Pryde unleashing a racial epithet (found by David Brothers) in a misguided effort by her to do the perceived right thing: [...] [...] of Kitty Pryde unleashing a racial epithet (found by David Brothers) in a misguided effort by her to do the perceived right thing: [...]

]]> By: Lightning Lord http://www.4thletter.net/2009/02/black-history-month-09-05-make-the-cipher-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-22184 Lightning Lord Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:06:13 +0000 http://www.4thletter.net/?p=2406#comment-22184 @<a href="#comment-22120">The Beast Must Die</a>: Those panels with Kitty going nuts are from the Marvel Graphic Novel, one of those oversized like 50 page albums from the 80s, called "God Loves, Man Kills", which was kind of a "very special episode" of X-Men. I think they loosely based X-2 on it. It begs the question, what was Claremont thinking? Yeah the X-Men are a futuristic sci-fi metaphor for racism, but having Kitty yell "NIGGER" every five pages isn't hard-hitting or mature, it's cartoonish. The idea of a team of actually wasn't new, there was a book from the 30s called Slan about a bunch of psychic mutants who were hated by the society they lived in. A lot of classic comic tropes are cribbed from old school science fiction, actually. @The Beast Must Die: Those panels with Kitty going nuts are from the Marvel Graphic Novel, one of those oversized like 50 page albums from the 80s, called “God Loves, Man Kills”, which was kind of a “very special episode” of X-Men. I think they loosely based X-2 on it.

It begs the question, what was Claremont thinking? Yeah the X-Men are a futuristic sci-fi metaphor for racism, but having Kitty yell “NIGGER” every five pages isn’t hard-hitting or mature, it’s cartoonish.

The idea of a team of actually wasn’t new, there was a book from the 30s called Slan about a bunch of psychic mutants who were hated by the society they lived in. A lot of classic comic tropes are cribbed from old school science fiction, actually.

]]> By: david brothers http://www.4thletter.net/2009/02/black-history-month-09-05-make-the-cipher-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-22163 david brothers Sun, 08 Feb 2009 06:37:39 +0000 http://www.4thletter.net/?p=2406#comment-22163 @<a href="#comment-22126">Liz Davis</a>: Thanks! @<a href="#comment-22124">Moses</a>: Yeah, that's a fair point, but I don't think it's too out of line to look at it with a critical eye. I'm not saying it's entirely terrible, but man is it clunky! @<a href="#comment-22123">Knifight</a>: Thanks Knifight, though I wouldn't even call it brave. Honest, maybe, but I'm not really risking anything by talking about it! Regardless, thanks for the praise and reading. @<a href="#comment-22121">Tucker Stone</a>: Man, I am all about some amazing and overt racism. "Are you ready for the world that's here?! I HOPE SO!" @Liz Davis: Thanks!

@Moses: Yeah, that’s a fair point, but I don’t think it’s too out of line to look at it with a critical eye. I’m not saying it’s entirely terrible, but man is it clunky!

@Knifight: Thanks Knifight, though I wouldn’t even call it brave. Honest, maybe, but I’m not really risking anything by talking about it! Regardless, thanks for the praise and reading.

@Tucker Stone: Man, I am all about some amazing and overt racism. “Are you ready for the world that’s here?! I HOPE SO!”

]]> By: Liz Davis http://www.4thletter.net/2009/02/black-history-month-09-05-make-the-cipher-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-22126 Liz Davis Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:57:20 +0000 http://www.4thletter.net/?p=2406#comment-22126 Not entirely related, I just have to say, your site is pretty much the only place I've seen with a consistently intelligent, in-depth discussion of comics. Treating it like a real art form worth exploring is hard to come by, and greatly appreciated. Not entirely related, I just have to say, your site is pretty much the only place I’ve seen with a consistently intelligent, in-depth discussion of comics. Treating it like a real art form worth exploring is hard to come by, and greatly appreciated.

]]> By: Moses http://www.4thletter.net/2009/02/black-history-month-09-05-make-the-cipher-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-22125 Moses Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:47:43 +0000 http://www.4thletter.net/?p=2406#comment-22125 uh.. CUT them some slack, I mean. uh.. CUT them some slack, I mean.

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