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		<title>By: Esther Inglis-Arkell</title>
		<link>http://www.4thletter.net/2009/09/reporting-live-from-the-scene/comment-page-1/#comment-27475</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther Inglis-Arkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-27469&quot;&gt;Gavok&lt;/a&gt;: Hmmm.  The word &#039;rape&#039; originally had quite a few connotations, including plundering or despoiling (The Rape of Nanking) and even &#039;to take away or kidnap&#039;.  There&#039;s a song in The Fantasticks that is called The Rape Song.  It&#039;s about a group who will kidnap people in a theatrical manner for pay.  The lyrics go, and I am not kidding you:

&lt;i&gt;Why

Invite regret,

When you can get the sort of rape

You&#039;ll never ever forget.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s usually stricken from modern versions, for obvious reason.

Under the &#039;despoil, kidnap and plunder by force&#039; definitions, Wolverine is correct.  However, people generally use it in only one sense these days, and when they&#039;re using it metaphorically it&#039;s to get people to pay attention.  I think the way obscenities are used to signify anger, the word &#039;rape&#039; is used to convey a sense of violation that people can&#039;t manage to communicate without invoking sexual force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-27469">Gavok</a>: Hmmm.  The word &#8216;rape&#8217; originally had quite a few connotations, including plundering or despoiling (The Rape of Nanking) and even &#8216;to take away or kidnap&#8217;.  There&#8217;s a song in The Fantasticks that is called The Rape Song.  It&#8217;s about a group who will kidnap people in a theatrical manner for pay.  The lyrics go, and I am not kidding you:</p>
<p><i>Why</p>
<p>Invite regret,</p>
<p>When you can get the sort of rape</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll never ever forget.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s usually stricken from modern versions, for obvious reason.</p>
<p>Under the &#8216;despoil, kidnap and plunder by force&#8217; definitions, Wolverine is correct.  However, people generally use it in only one sense these days, and when they&#8217;re using it metaphorically it&#8217;s to get people to pay attention.  I think the way obscenities are used to signify anger, the word &#8216;rape&#8217; is used to convey a sense of violation that people can&#8217;t manage to communicate without invoking sexual force.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget Vril Dox (who? the guy from REBELS, yes the book that only me and Tucker Stone read)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget Vril Dox (who? the guy from REBELS, yes the book that only me and Tucker Stone read)</p>
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		<title>By: Montreuil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montreuil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume Esther&#039;s never read Starman... Jack Knight&#039;s a similar case to Batman and GA, as a kid resulted from his rape, but his relationship with the Mist wasn&#039;t as amiable as Bruce and Talia or Ollie and Shado were on occasion. Jack also seemed pretty devastated by the discovery, though that may have been more from learning he had a son than from the rape itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume Esther&#8217;s never read Starman&#8230; Jack Knight&#8217;s a similar case to Batman and GA, as a kid resulted from his rape, but his relationship with the Mist wasn&#8217;t as amiable as Bruce and Talia or Ollie and Shado were on occasion. Jack also seemed pretty devastated by the discovery, though that may have been more from learning he had a son than from the rape itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s an interesting contrast.

The gist of her article is, &quot;Batman, Nightwing and Green Arrow were all, by definition, raped. None of them seemed to care or do anything about it.&quot;

With Wolverine, he wasn&#039;t raped in the literal context, but insists that what&#039;s been done to him (the forced adamantium injections, brainwashing, constant mindwipes over mindwipes over mindwipes) on a regular basis boils down to rape. And he, despite being more rugged than those three, has an expressive emotional reaction to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. It&#8217;s an interesting contrast.</p>
<p>The gist of her article is, &#8220;Batman, Nightwing and Green Arrow were all, by definition, raped. None of them seemed to care or do anything about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>With Wolverine, he wasn&#8217;t raped in the literal context, but insists that what&#8217;s been done to him (the forced adamantium injections, brainwashing, constant mindwipes over mindwipes over mindwipes) on a regular basis boils down to rape. And he, despite being more rugged than those three, has an expressive emotional reaction to it.</p>
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		<title>By: david brothers</title>
		<link>http://www.4thletter.net/2009/09/reporting-live-from-the-scene/comment-page-1/#comment-27468</link>
		<dc:creator>david brothers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-27467&quot;&gt;Gavok&lt;/a&gt;: Prediction: Herheadasplode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-27467">Gavok</a>: Prediction: Herheadasplode.</p>
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