Comments on: “Their capacity for evil so evident and prevalent”

By: Evil Abraham Lincoln

Evil Abraham Lincoln — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:10:18 +0000

For better or for worse, Ms. Marvel *is* Major (not Captain, which is something that the writers could have learned by reading Claremont’s UXM) Carol Danvers. She’s a former spy, trained markswoman and was skilled enough in unarmed combat to fight Mystique. For *her* character, with *her* background, killing an opponent who’s well able to kill her and has no compunctions about doing so makes sense. A cold and cruel sense, but sense nonetheless. The problem with the premise of this post is that the writers end up making everything into everything, a blanket statement made of sewn-together bones drenched in blood. We end up with comics that show characters like Slapstick beating people into comas. And, of course, the blanket is turned over to show it’s flowers-and-rainbow sticker side and we get comics that feature trained soldiers feeling remorseful about killing the terrorists who’ve not only struck them in a personal manner but proceeded to get “innocent” people involved in their attacks (ahem, USAgent, ahem).

So I’m all for stories in which killing opponents makes sense. I’d just rather not see characters like Jubilee or Turbo offing stick-up kids or jaywalkers. And I’m not ready for a yearlong series of the reborn Captain America planting daisies on the graves of war veterans or Ms. Marvel wangsting about killing someone who had enough power to almost snap her spine (with that power being demonstrated to her when he repeatedly pummeled her in the back as she flew thousands of feet into the air.)

By: matches

matches — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:53:33 +0000

Chuck Dixon did a story where Joker got dunked in a Lazarus Pit and temporarily turned sane.

By: edc

edc — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:03:20 +0000

and even though they are ‘gone’ the cool plot twist about batman killing the joker is harley could have saved a lazarus pit and bring joker back, he is already insane.

By: VenomZ302

VenomZ302 — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:09:52 +0000

@Onion: Quite right. And now that I think about it, the Guardians have granted the Green Lanterns lethal force, so their body counts are also starting to rise.

By: Onion

Onion — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:08:13 +0000

“I do wonder, though, what would happen if, say Marvel, just started legitimately killing off its villains.”

They’d actually have to come up with new villains instead of reusing the same 20+ years old ones they continue to use?

The horror!

On another note, I don’t see where killing someone trying to kill you makes you less heroic. Wolverine and the X-men seem to still be considered heroes and they have some serious body counts.